Comments on: Ok, ready to go. Welcome, to the Orphans of Civilization http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2008/06/28/ok-ready-to-go-welcome-to-the-orphans-of-civilization/ Debriefing the Gurdjieff work Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:41:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Gurdjieff Con » Dandy comment. What is a ‘path’? http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2008/06/28/ok-ready-to-go-welcome-to-the-orphans-of-civilization/comment-page-1/#comment-4 The Gurdjieff Con » Dandy comment. What is a ‘path’? Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:11:32 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=5#comment-4 [...] Comment from Danny [...] [...] Comment from Danny [...]

]]> By: dandy http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2008/06/28/ok-ready-to-go-welcome-to-the-orphans-of-civilization/comment-page-1/#comment-2 dandy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:23:24 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=5#comment-2 "There are really only two 'ways' or paths, that in time and that moving beyond time. Buddhism shows an instance of the latter, while the former is a purely logical deduction from the nature of the case, one that a Buddhist would find samsarically spurious. We see no exemplars. And yet, we do. The great monotheisms proceed by default to exclude the path in time by usurping its place, no doubt because it is beyond the capacity of man as he is, who is an instant screw up in need of redemption." What is the difference between the path moving in time and that moving beyond time? Is the path moving beyond time is that of withdrawal from ordinary life, seclusion and renouncement of the world in favor of spiritual development whereas the path in time is the attempt to do the same thing while immersed in ordinary life, without changing the external, natural conditions of the individual? “There are really only two ‘ways’ or paths, that in time and that moving beyond time. Buddhism shows an instance of the latter, while the former is a purely logical deduction from the nature of the case, one that a Buddhist would find samsarically spurious. We see no exemplars. And yet, we do. The great monotheisms proceed by default to exclude the path in time by usurping its place, no doubt because it is beyond the capacity of man as he is, who is an instant screw up in need of redemption.”

What is the difference between the path moving in time and that moving beyond time? Is the path moving beyond time is that of withdrawal from ordinary life, seclusion and renouncement of the world in favor of spiritual development whereas the path in time is the attempt to do the same thing while immersed in ordinary life, without changing the external, natural conditions of the individual?

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