12.07.08
‘Intentional suffering’ and the sadists of the ‘work’
Reading Gurdjieff’s book is generally a waste of time. I wince at your statement that this effort is ‘intentional suffering’, that phrase of the ‘work’. Don’t get started with all that. It is a very ill-considered thesis with many pitfalls, to sabotage your life.
You can read J. G. Bennett’s Making A New World for a rough estimate of what the book is about. And at that point I would say don’t trust Bennett, either.
To conceal in this way suggests the author has something to hide. He does!
As to ‘intentional suffering’ the idea is that humanity is asleep, a bunch of couch potatoes, Nature doesn’t like couch potatoes, so the ‘Work’ with a capital ‘W’ should be to track down these couch potatoes and torture them to death as a sacrifice to Gaian energy balance.
Real fruitcake this fellow. It doesn’t follow. Nature loves the hippopotamus, so I guess couch potatoes can’t be much worse.
Moral: masochism suggested by the ‘Work’ is a very dangerous tactic, life has enough rude shocks, and the question of creating more is not so clear, especially if the later followers of Gurdjieff turn out to be a bunch of sadists, like the notorious E. J. Gold, who has tried a take over bid of the G situation, and seems to enjoy ‘intentional sufferings’ a lot, his intentions, your suffering.
The whole thing is already corrupt, so don’t let any principles it proposes linger in your mind without examination, e.g. ‘intentional suffering’.
Peter Klok said,
21.07.08 at 2:06 am
E.J. Gold is a fraud, no doubt, but the suffering you are undergoing over all this is not so intentional, is it? It just so happens. There are things that are true that are not so easily accessible. That also just so happens. Reading Beelzebub is a real pleasure for me.
silllykitty said,
26.07.08 at 11:01 pm
isn’t beelzebub another name for satan? father of lies? hello? do you have a brain? yes, ‘ there are things that are true that are not so easily accessible.’
there are also things that are FALSE that are not so easily accessible, but because they are not so easily accessible you can not easily ACCESS them to discover that they ARE false and are sucking your brain and robbing your life–the emperor is naked.
reading beelzebub is certainly ‘intentional suffering.’ i.e. a completely masochistic waste of time and energy.
the creator of this site most certainly suffers very intentionally as he flies in the face of this elaborate mythos to begin to critique it–long overdue. but he will be attacked for his efforts far more than he will be thanked. knowing this he is doing it anyway. THAT is intentional suffering.
you are right. go back to the other sources you mention. with beelzebub you are hiding your light in a dark and dangerous place.