There are an endless array of mental and physical techniques that will cause
various states of energy and mind to arise giving the _impression_ that something
wonderful is happening. What is happening is self-prompted, self-induced and
merely an activity of mind.

Since the beginning of human time, people have exploited others and people have been exploited. This is ALL due to the fear and emptiness arises from basic laziness which is the ground for fundamental ignorance.

God, as preached about, in all forms is nothing more than an illusion.

Guru’s, as representatives of Cosmic Energy, the Lord of All, as “That by which This has all come About” are thieves that take what people freely give to them.

Blame?
Blame yourselves.

and

And you can see the result of this Western conspiracy in Andrew Cohen: a fake guru produced to make this racket seem real. Ditto, with Ken Wilbur, save that he is frozen in place and can’t seem to develop at all. Suspicious. OK, why waste your time with these pretenders?
The classic Indian path (corrupted by Hinduistic confusions) is not so complex.
This gang of Western fakes is an attempt to forestall Indian religion with monotheistic monopolies.

However, as we have pointed out the Hindu field is hopelessly confused. The Brahmin game is corrupt and yet controls a lot of the guru circuit.
I know Rajneesh is controversial, but forget the man for a moment and look at the way he revived the very simple ancient Indic stream, visible in the yogic and tantric source traditions in ancient Shaivism. Before Buddhism there was Jainism, please note, without the Mahayana boddhissatwa game which freezes people also. Finding your way through these distractions is tricky. Don’t spend a life being the dip shit for the likes of Lozowick.
I don’t recommend an obsession with monotheism

And I am suspicious that the ‘god game’ has been brought to the fore to create a ‘path’ that coopts Indian religions with a dose of monotheism.
That is probably what also happened to Sufism at some point.

One clue that someone may be part of Lozowick’s ’shtick’ is if, anywhere, you see a picture of old guru Ramsuratkumar.

…..That would make sense since Yogi Ramsuratkumar is the younger
gurus guru.

He is referred to either as a Godman or God child. The poor old gent, now deceased, did not dress in a gaudy manner. Usually had flowers around his neck,
………There are many pictures showing that but flowers where
not part of his regular dress.

a plain cloth turban, big white beard and customarily wore a plain
dark wool shawl. In old age, he tended to sit crouched, hunched over, rather like Santa Claus lost amid a pile of laundry.

If you see a picture like this in someones home or business, you can go online and see if it matches up with online photos of Ramsuratkumar (or Ramsurat Kumar)

…..Or you could just ask the owner of the pic who
the old guy is. Now that would be novel eh? Actually engaging
in conversation.

Another note: Hohm publishes books, sometimes very expensively in high quality cloth covers and dense top quality paper. One bias is that Lee Lozowick looks young and handsome in the photos.

Can tell you those photos in the Hohm books are about 15 or more years out of date

……If you’re looking at a photo of him that looks 15 years old, it’s prolly
cause the book is 15 years old. Either that or the section of the book
it’s in has to do with things from 15 years ago.

and Lozowick doesnt look nearly as good these days. Too much sun, too much coddling from disciples and too many years of eating well have made him less than photogenic, at least as of 2002.

And, according to the second edition of Speeths book The Gudjieff Work, Lozowick had started out in Gurdjieff work

……Nope.

and, according to Speeth, the presentations on G, given by the Hohm/Lozowick people seemed to her to just be a way to recruit for Hohm.

…..And she might be right…..or not.

This 1996 article, written years after Lozowick linked with Ramsuratkumar makes clear his basic interest in Gurdjieff work.

The disturbingly adultatory article says plenty about Lozowick in relation to Gurdjieff but zero in relation to Lozowick and Hinduism.

…..It says plenty about the author of the article who is very interested in the
Work, but almost nothing about Mr. Lozowick.

http://sonic.net/~tayu/wayfourth/paris28.htm

Be alert, because some honor Ramsuratkumar and insist that Lee Lozowick stole the legacy and is misrepresenting it.

…….That’s always the way isn’t it, when the teacher dies, people
pointing fingers claiming others are clueless or posers.
Then it becomes so complicated because one has to check their sources.

LoudSue

One clue that someone may be part of Lozowick’s ‘shtick’ is if, anywhere, you see a picture of old guru Ramsuratkumar.

He is referred to either as a Godman or God child. The poor old gent, now deceased, did not dress in a gaudy manner. Usually had flowers around his neck,a plain cloth turban, big white beard and customarily wore a plain
dark wool shawl. In old age, he tended to sit crouched, hunched over, rather like Santa Claus lost amid a pile of laundry.

If you see a picture like this in someones home or business, you can go online and see if it matches up with online photos of Ramsuratkumar (or Ramsurat Kumar)

Another note: Hohm publishes books, sometimes very expensively in high quality cloth covers and dense top quality paper. One bias is that Lee Lozowick looks young and handsome in the photos.

Can tell you those photos in the Hohm books are about 15 or more years out of date and Lozowick doesnt look nearly as good these days. Too much sun, too much coddling from disciples and too many years of eating well have made him less than photogenic, at least as of 2002.

And, according to the second edition of Speeths book The Gudjieff Work, Lozowick had started out in Gurdjieff work and, according to Speeth, the presentations on G, given by the Hohm/Lozowick people seemed to her to just be a way to recruit for Hohm.

This 1996 article, written years after Lozowick linked with Ramsuratkumar makes clear his basic interest in Gurdjieff work. The disturbingly adultatory article says plenty about Lozowick in relation to Gurdjieff but zero in relation to Lozowick and Hinduism.

http://sonic.net/~tayu/wayfourth/paris28.htm

Be alert, because some honor Ramsuratkumar and insist that Lee Lozowick stole the legacy and is misrepresenting it.