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	<title>Comments on: From Jaspers&#8217; The Origin And Goal Of History</title>
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		<title>By: robyn goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>robyn goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Nemo;

I thought that this would come out in formal print first. It stems from a formal paper I presented on the subject at Columbia University . But alas, time may well be of the essence. The bottom line is that in science, we often deliberately create false impressions for the purpose of learning the truth. Popper pointed this out. sometimes, we learn the truth ourselves and other times, we make it possible for others to figure it out for themselves. Jaspers was a scientist (psychiatrist) and remained so. It was Max Weber&#039;s understanding that &quot;vanity does not usually disturb scientific enterprise&quot; i.e., for the few (like Eintstein, Jaspers and himself) then engaged in the enterprise. There are real differences in perspective between us. But that does not mean we cannot come around to understanding the real value of a mutual orientation of our individual activities in the struggle for advantages and for survival. This would be the &quot;human enterprise&quot; working at its best. I have faith that every party to the struggle that is going on in Egypt and the surrounding area will work &quot;it&quot; out together with all due respect for the bit of knowledge and, thereby,  the freedom, the justice and the order that is possible. As one friend once told me, there are certain questions that &quot;we will never now the answer to.&quot; There are others that we can. Let&#039;s hope that Mubarik understands what his&#039; great role in human history can be of walking away from a fight/battle that will go nowhere. It will serve as a lesson to us all (including parents in positions of authority) and especially to all the other principals in this conflict.

Sincerely, Robyn Ann Goldstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nemo;</p>
<p>I thought that this would come out in formal print first. It stems from a formal paper I presented on the subject at Columbia University . But alas, time may well be of the essence. The bottom line is that in science, we often deliberately create false impressions for the purpose of learning the truth. Popper pointed this out. sometimes, we learn the truth ourselves and other times, we make it possible for others to figure it out for themselves. Jaspers was a scientist (psychiatrist) and remained so. It was Max Weber&#8217;s understanding that &#8220;vanity does not usually disturb scientific enterprise&#8221; i.e., for the few (like Eintstein, Jaspers and himself) then engaged in the enterprise. There are real differences in perspective between us. But that does not mean we cannot come around to understanding the real value of a mutual orientation of our individual activities in the struggle for advantages and for survival. This would be the &#8220;human enterprise&#8221; working at its best. I have faith that every party to the struggle that is going on in Egypt and the surrounding area will work &#8220;it&#8221; out together with all due respect for the bit of knowledge and, thereby,  the freedom, the justice and the order that is possible. As one friend once told me, there are certain questions that &#8220;we will never now the answer to.&#8221; There are others that we can. Let&#8217;s hope that Mubarik understands what his&#8217; great role in human history can be of walking away from a fight/battle that will go nowhere. It will serve as a lesson to us all (including parents in positions of authority) and especially to all the other principals in this conflict.</p>
<p>Sincerely, Robyn Ann Goldstein</p>
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		<title>By: robyn goldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2009/01/25/from-jaspers-the-origin-and-goal-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-36878</link>
		<dc:creator>robyn goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you. I have parts of that book- but do not recally this introduction where the axial age is so well defined. Who is nemo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you. I have parts of that book- but do not recally this introduction where the axial age is so well defined. Who is nemo?</p>
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