27.02.10
Vitriol vs G’s concealed malevolence
It is very easy to be misunderstood by dabblers in Gurdjieffianity. The ‘vitriol’ springs from the concealed fascist malevolence of Gurdjieff’s conspiracy, and the general attack on modernity and freedom.
People get angry when you try to destroy their freedom, OK?
People are easily impressed by Gurdjieff’s ‘teaching’, but most of it is junk thinking, leaving his case unmade for an ancient teaching.
grey hat said,
27.02.10 at 4:10 pm
No, the vitriol springs from your own mind. Your justifications are irrelevant.
You must have alot of “junk DNA” to enable you to see “junk thinking” so clearly.
Isnt it nice when you can regard your own opinions as simple fact?
Carry on.
nemo said,
27.02.10 at 5:58 pm
Mr. Grey Hat, we are tired here of pious fourth way idiots preaching to us.
We are talking about spiritual gangsters, spiritual rape, fascists, and genocidal lunatics: a legacy of Gurdjieff out of control, visible in people such as E. J. Gold, for example.
We have a responsibility not to let this become a new normative exploitation.
As for ‘vitriol’, it is Gurdjieff, not me, who said that since ‘love’ has failed, the path of hate should take its place.
nemo said,
01.03.10 at 2:51 pm
Before you accuse me, let me ask you a simple question: do gurus have the right to torture and kill those who have placed their trust in them?
Clearly NOT! Such things violate the rights of man established in modern (revolutionary) achievements of liberty.
But Gurdjieff is opposed to such liberties, and regrets the passing of slavery, hoping to reinvent a concealed form in the disguise of discipleship. Read him carefully, in the context in which Ouspensky writes, and in the veiled references to the wish to undermine liberal modernity
Be careful how you answer, and be forewarned about Gurdjieff. When the time comes you too will slip away half-psychotic after the ‘sufis’ have had their ‘meal’ with you.
But you don’t have to learn the hard way that human spirituality (monotheism) is taken over by gangsterism.
But the issue of the term ‘guru’ is unfair here. The sufis don’t have gurus, which is an Indic tradition.
But the terms have become confused.
Now ask yourself if it is realistic to expect ‘love’ instead of ‘vitriol’ in relation to gurus.
Once the exploited find out all hell breaks loose.
Carry on
grey hat said,
12.03.10 at 4:36 am
There are many disturbed people in this world, and they use any manner of means to achieve their malicious ends. Gurdjieff was not such a person, no matter how firmly you believe it to be so. You have no insight into this world as you live solely within the realm of your own deluded fantasies. Dont worry about me, worry about yourself.
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Mich said,
07.10.10 at 8:32 am
My husband and I are writing a dual memoir about our life in a Fourth Way School. I believe we were dupped by someone who interpreted the Work of Gurdjieff and fabricated the description of this man in order to justify the many manipulations used to rob us and others of our time, energy and loads of money! In my research I have read several out of print, first hand accounts of life with Mr. Gurdjieff. It has become clear to me that the ’70′s opened opportunities for charlatans to take the teachings which otherwise seemed innocent and pure from the source and utilized them for selfish intentions.