Comments on: Vitriol vs G’s concealed malevolence

By: Mich

Mich — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 14:32:23 +0000

My husband and I are writing a dual memoir about our life in a Fourth Way School. I believe we were dupped by someone who interpreted the Work of Gurdjieff and fabricated the description of this man in order to justify the many manipulations used to rob us and others of our time, energy and loads of money! In my research I have read several out of print, first hand accounts of life with Mr. Gurdjieff. It has become clear to me that the ’70′s opened opportunities for charlatans to take the teachings which otherwise seemed innocent and pure from the source and utilized them for selfish intentions.

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The Gurdjieff Con » Beelzebub, a demonic malevolence — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:17:58 +0000

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By: grey hat

grey hat — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:36:44 +0000

There are many disturbed people in this world, and they use any manner of means to achieve their malicious ends. Gurdjieff was not such a person, no matter how firmly you believe it to be so. You have no insight into this world as you live solely within the realm of your own deluded fantasies. Dont worry about me, worry about yourself.

By: nemo

nemo — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:51:19 +0000

Before you accuse me, let me ask you a simple question: do gurus have the right to torture and kill those who have placed their trust in them?
Clearly NOT! Such things violate the rights of man established in modern (revolutionary) achievements of liberty.
But Gurdjieff is opposed to such liberties, and regrets the passing of slavery, hoping to reinvent a concealed form in the disguise of discipleship. Read him carefully, in the context in which Ouspensky writes, and in the veiled references to the wish to undermine liberal modernity
Be careful how you answer, and be forewarned about Gurdjieff. When the time comes you too will slip away half-psychotic after the ‘sufis’ have had their ‘meal’ with you.
But you don’t have to learn the hard way that human spirituality (monotheism) is taken over by gangsterism.
But the issue of the term ‘guru’ is unfair here. The sufis don’t have gurus, which is an Indic tradition.
But the terms have become confused.
Now ask yourself if it is realistic to expect ‘love’ instead of ‘vitriol’ in relation to gurus.
Once the exploited find out all hell breaks loose.

Carry on

By: nemo

nemo — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:58:21 +0000

Mr. Grey Hat, we are tired here of pious fourth way idiots preaching to us.
We are talking about spiritual gangsters, spiritual rape, fascists, and genocidal lunatics: a legacy of Gurdjieff out of control, visible in people such as E. J. Gold, for example.
We have a responsibility not to let this become a new normative exploitation.

As for ‘vitriol’, it is Gurdjieff, not me, who said that since ‘love’ has failed, the path of hate should take its place.

By: grey hat

grey hat — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:10:19 +0000

No, the vitriol springs from your own mind. Your justifications are irrelevant.

You must have alot of “junk DNA” to enable you to see “junk thinking” so clearly.

Isnt it nice when you can regard your own opinions as simple fact?

Carry on.