21.08.10
Cacophony of voices
Your question is a good one, but there are no real answers here. The problem is that everyone is already psychic, but their apparatus is a cluttered cacophony of voices, as it were. It is like a filthy kitchen owned by a couch potato: last clean up was ages ago. The kitchen is an archaeological horror of mouldy plates of rotting food, the ghosts of dead meals seem to speak in belches. A spiritual slob, in the same way, can’t hear anything but noise. A spiritual slob badly needs a tune up.
Gurus, I suppose, were intended to solve the problem of spirit guides, and vice versa.
The mere use of the term will produce imagination and false beliefs. But, perhaps, when the time is ripe, the cacophony will subside for a moment and the silence will produce a moment of clarity.
Note the Kantian distinction of phenomenal and noumenal. It is highly unlikely that the things on the phenomenal side correspond exactly to the stuff on the other side. So one must be wary of it all. The messages are on this side: what chooses which one on the other side is another matter. That’s not much of a method.
You are often getting help without realizing it. The action never enters consciousness. So it is important to find who is tampering with you. It is very hard to navigate Christian culture with an Eastern religious path. ‘Spirits’ doing Christian domination magic will destroy such paths to maintain the Monopoly. This will produce howls of protest from Christians. Actually, sad to say, Christians are immersed in an occult world, but it always keeps them in check. Born again Christians, if real, often have a brief spell of interaction with an unknown power.
I was once down and out in LA (another penniless scholar of Latin and Greek) and spent many nights in the insufferable born again beans for prayer gospel missions, and suddenly realized that in some cases the ‘born again’ phenomenon was real, and propelled people into a new life. But only locked inside the Christian cult. But mostly it is prayer for beans, and worthless.
Is is an ugly side of Christianity but it is real, sometimes, and secularists have no understanding of it.
A lot of direct action springs from surprising sources, dead authors, or famous persons of one kind or another, ‘hungry ghosts’, who want contact, but can’t do anything but choose messages on this side. But you sense often they are there. You can often feel the prescence of such, often bewildered, unaware they are dead, seeking solidity from their admirers.
BTW, this happened to Wallace, someone who never had much occult savvy. But he must have sensed something, some tampering with the theory of evolution. Note the extraordinary way that Wallace and Darwin interacted in 1859 (and before). It looks like tampering to me. Something mysterious was at work, and it seems demonic: get the smart fellow (Wallace) to do the work (he produced the theory), and then get the establishment figure (Darwin) to rip it off, and promote it more successfully. The occult world that later produces esoteric Darwinian genocide is initiating somewhere/somewhen in the nineteenth century. The strange coincidences of Wallace and Darwin don’t seem coincidence to me. Some demonic force suddenly grasps the logic ten moves ahead with the theory of Darwin. Social Darwinist demonology was very real, you have but to study German occultism after Blavatsky to sense this.
And Blavatsky had experiences, probably mostly fake, of this kind over and over again. She clearly, despite her multiple strikeouts, had many intersections with spirit guides. Perhaps the whole confusion/mischief starts with her.
The beauty of Darwin’s theory for a devil who wants to initiate conflicts and strife, is the appearance of science given to what is really an injunction to such conflict in the name of evolution. It is a horrible swindle on its suckers.
I can’t figure it out, but it is clear that Wallace suddenly sensed the ghost world. He also saw that his theory, by now Darwin’s, had to be wrong, but he had no further opportunities to change the situation he had created.
In general, the question is beyond our understanding, since we can’t visualize a timeless reality without paradox. But note that the eminence of a dead ghost is ‘present’ to our time, because out of time.
Indians have noted this over and over, and speak of strange experiences near the tombs of dead saints, or spiritual figures of the past.
Again, we cannot easily understand this. Schopenhauer notes something else, that he felt his life had an overall logic to it, as if its incidents were precomputed, in general strokes, not details. He was onto something. and it is worth considerig that few, very few, can advise others if they don’t grasp this prior logic to an individual’s life.
Note that others can harm you with advice: who you are is already computed by nature, your ‘destiny’ is already fixed, maybe,up to a point,as a potential. But have you lost contact with that? Probably. So before trying the hopeless venture of contacting spirits, consider uncovering your own. Grafting a spiritual path onto that prior being is not likely to succeed. But spiritual methods can work, willynilly, because (e.g. meditation) they assume nothing about that deeper momentum. They work on whatever is there. You can remorph who you are, but it would be nice if nature had granted that deeper self a spiritual path, then it succeeds. most are trying in vain because they are spastically in contradiction to their deeper orbit through life.
Dandy has tricked me–again–into dispensing (spiritual) advice, but I am not a guru, merely jawboning on various subjects.
dandy said,
19.10.10 at 2:18 pm
That is a nice paper, nemo, and I am grateful. I will take the other points later, perhaps.
“Note that others can harm you with advice: who you are is already computed by nature, your ‘destiny’ is already fixed, maybe,up to a point,as a potential.”
Have you considered the possibility that each man walks upon this earth in a different time mode, connected to various forces in different dimensions as a result from different times? Each one is preoccupied by what occurs around him and by other people, yet he is only alone, wrapped by his own story and karma.
dandy said,
02.11.10 at 2:26 am
“Q. What is the difference between the theory of reincarnation and the theory of recurrence?
A. The idea of reincarnation is a kind of adaptation of the idea of recurrence to our ordinary understanding, because, as a theory, the idea of recurrence is much more difficult for us—it needs quite a new understanding of time. Even educated people need a certain amount of mathematical knowledge to understand the idea of return. Recurrence is in eternity, but reincarnation is in time. It supposes that time exists apart from us and that we continue to exist in this time after death. For instance, in Buddhism they take it that a man dies and is immediately born again, so that one life follows another, because this is easier to understand for ordinary people. But we have no evidence of the existence of time beyond our life. Time is life for each person, and it includes in itself all time, so that when life ends, time ends. So reincarnation is a less scientific theory than recurrence—too much is taken for granted.”
– Ouspensky from the fourth way
Ouespensky says that we create time, that is, time is not universal as a kind of independent system that beats everywhere on its own and in its own pace for all of reality – as people tend to think about it. Time is singular for each person and each and every person creates and lives in its own time. That’s more or less what I meant. Could you say something more about this subject of time?
Richard said,
05.11.10 at 10:04 am
“For instance, in Buddhism they take it that a man dies and is immediately born again, so that one life follows another, because this is easier to understand for ordinary people. ”
Such a claim is never made. Even eternity in Buddhism is considered a dimension of time (time gets more refined if one isn’t born in the sensual realm). Only the “Unconditioned” (beyond samsara) is considered to be truly beyond time and space.