29.08.10
Self-remembering confusions
Self-remembering is a way Gurdjieff used to give some apparent substance to his teaching, in the realm of practice. But it is mostly a brochure mode philosophy. Anyone with any savvy would be wary of this abstraction and follow the classic paths of meditation, which are mapped out.
Self-remembering, as with everything in Gurdjieff is so hyped by lies that it ceases to be on the level, leaving one suspicious it is just window dressing.
Noone ever succeeds with this method, which is poorly defined. Look at the Gurdjieff people, they are the most retared spiritual types, without any practice. They just reread Ouspensky and hope.
Any teacher will even a trace of an objective of producing successful disciples who can graduate to real self-awareness wouldn’t inflict the confusing and impractical self-remembering on confused beginners.
MICHAEL MIFSUD said,
18.09.10 at 8:56 am
I know you are wrong because Gurdjieff did leave a very interesting and productive trail which lasts to this day and I think that your simplicit appeal to meditation is the classical con of the centuries. Meditation does little other than produce a sense of relaxation. It is the business of prelude to faith in the hilarious gurus that tried to infiltrate the western way of life. Gurdjieff produced people like Peter Brook, Lenin, Isadora Duncan. He awakes people because he does not impose teaching, merely bringing the energy motors into use with the emotions to synchronize the human system. He is difficult for lazy people and those whose self love prevents them from coming to grips with their vegetable states. If you are putting Ouspensky on a platform I would respectfully state quite categorically that he was jealous of Gurdjieffs attraction and looked down on him from his so called upper levels of education trying desperately to find a way of cashing in on this phenomenon without appearing to be doing so.
nemo said,
21.09.10 at 4:46 am
To attack meditation in this way just shows how Gurdjieff fans are the victims of confusion.
anonymous said,
22.09.10 at 1:36 am
the remembered self does not exist. mbfm suggested a long time back that gurdjieff realized this but, at least it seems, none (?) of his students have. a zen joke.
nemo said,
24.09.10 at 11:54 am
Your comment is exceptionally ignorant. Meditation a con?
Just goes to show the problem with the Gurdjieff groupies, who just hang out and get nowhere
dandy said,
02.10.10 at 11:20 am
I think that what he meant was not that meditation is a con but rather Self-Remembering that Gurdjieff taught.
Jon said,
08.10.10 at 8:48 pm
Gurdjieff, Ospensky, watch yourself, stop thoughts, be aware of your being. Can you do this? No, we sleep, but not always.