08.01.11
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at 11:37 am
by nemo
Comment on EJ Gold
It is OK to challenge me on EJ Gold, but it OK for me to challenge EJ Gold.
Gold is a fake guru who is a Crowley style black magician doing a number on many unsuspecting people who think they are doing Gurdjieff stuff when they are not, the Gurdjieff stuff being bad enough already, that Beelzebub taint, remember.
Gurdjieff’s ploy on demonology and suggestibility seems to be that if I call myself a devil, and people don’t bat an eye then they deserve what they get.
Gold gives no warnings, and looks profound to many. But he is basically a cannibal, luring his victims into allegiance, then shunting them out of the ‘school’ where noone will notice or realize their fate.
Gold has had many decades to do something out front that was intelligible or useful, or to produce some graduates. There is nothing there, and no graduates. He simply spins the wheel of bullshit around and around.
Tim Furneaux said,
06.01.11 at 8:23 pm · Hello Friend,
I’ve liked reading your voice that you’ve posted at this site.
I wonder about your comments about E. J. Gold.
I’m not his student. I had meetings with him over a period of several years, decades ago.
There was a time when I was seeking someone with more experience than myself. I’ve had a specific “thing” happening with me since I was 5 years old ( I’m in my 50′s now)
I initially went to E J to see of he had more knowledge than me about this “thing”
He didn’t. My old zen teacher didn’t either. No ‘spiritual’ teacher I ever met did.
The answer I got was “Find your own answers”
So I did ( enough about me )
I wonder about your comments about E J Gold.
You and I have never met. We have something in common.
Your comments about E J Gold border on….. psychic? psychotic? psore? psad? psick? pslick?
How ya doing ?
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at 11:28 am
by nemo
Spontaneous Evolution: Our Positive Future and a Way to Get There From Here
I am usually skeptical of books like this, but the evolution topic in New Age circles needs examination. It looks like an attempt to challenge Darwin indirectly, barely above a whisper, with a lot of distracting tidbits to disguise heresy.
Product Description
We’ve all heard stories of people who’ve experienced seemingly miraculous recoveries from illness, but can the same thing happen for our world? According to pioneering biologist Bruce H. Lipton, it’s not only possible, it’s already occurring.
In Spontaneous Evolution, this world-renowned expert in the emerging science of epigenetics reveals how our changing understanding of biology will help us navigate this turbulent period in our planet’s history and how each of us can participate in this global shift.
In collaboration with political philosopher Steve Bhaerman, Dr. Lipton invites readers to reconsider:
· the “unquestionable” pillars of biology, including random evolution, survival of the fittest, and the role of DNA;
· the relationship between mind and matter;
· how our beliefs about nature and human nature shape our politics, culture, and individual lives; and
· how each of us can become planetary “stem cells” supporting the health and growth of our world.
By questioning the old beliefs that got us to where we are today and keep us stuck in the status quo, we can trigger the spontaneous evolution of our species that will usher in a brighter future.
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at 11:24 am
by nemo
The Origins of Yoga and Tantra: Indic Religions to the Thirteenth Century [Paperback]
Geoffrey Samuel
I finally got hold of this book, recommended to refute Danielou et al. The book is useless and doesn’t even start til about 500BCE. So it proves nothing.
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07.01.11
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at 12:17 pm
by nemo
update: I am almost sorry I posted this, more of the usual ‘groovy gurdjieff’ indirect promo.
Next!
http://www.dailypioneer.com/304679/Of-science–metaphysics.html
The Tacit Dimension
Author: Michael Polanyi
Publisher: Penguin
Price: Rs 299
Ramesh Chandra Shah, through this book, examines why Polanyi believed one would know more than one could explain
Read the rest of this entry »
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02.01.11
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by nemo
Webb’s book, which I am going through, raises some important issues, and the beginning part on the ‘flight from reason’ is crucial, and yet we already see that occult issues are not intrinsically irrational. It is just that man as he is is a total fool on these questions, almost impotent, and beyond the capacity learn.
In any case, the irrationality of the occult does not gainsay its existence, as we have seen here.
We have to read between the lines to suspect some hidden success stories (Gurdjieff for one drops some hints) and in general the reality of an occult background to religions like Christianity, et al.
The ‘struggle of the magicians’ was among other things Gurdjieff’s Christian response to the Blavatskian occult.
In any case, the secular strategy to denounce the occult can backfire: the typical student of scientism and/or the new atheism is a figure deprived of any possibility of real knowledge, programmed (as are Christians) to react violently at any references to the occult.
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by nemo
I thought I would scan the intro to Webb’s book
tor a discussion of the Enlightenment and the occult renaissance.
Here, to start is the scanned material.
The Flight From Reason
Introduction to James Webb’s
The Occult Underground
After the Age of Reason
came the Age of the Irrational. It has yet to be trapped, dis-
sected, and pronounced upon. The fact that it is with us
here and now is daily announced by the pundits; but no one
has bothered to anatomize the beast historically. The label,
like all historical labels-and all tags hung round the necks
of apocalyptic Beasts-has only a limited use. If it serves to
indicate that the period has been in certain aspects one of
reaction against the logical consequences of too much logic,
it serves its purpose well. It is of as much use as the Age of
Reason which went before it; and subject to the same
qualifications. For the century of Enlightenment was also
the century of shadows. In the time of the encyclopaedists
there flourished alchemists and disciples of Jacob Boehme,
whilst the belief of astrologers in lunar influence has sur-
vived the physical presence of man on the moon. Indeed
there is no good reason why it should not.
The abandonment of Reason has been an irregular
process. Sections of the populations of Europe and America
have been afflicted by various forms of anxiety at different
times. However, it is not arbitrary to define a period of .
great uncertainty extending roughly from the downfall of
Napoleon to the outbreak of the First .World War. Men’s
responses have been multiform. The response of those
whose chief education had been found in the pages of the
family Bible was different from that of the sophisticated up-
per classes of European capitals; and London differed from
Paris as London has always differed from Paris. There is,
nevertheless, evidence that Western man as a whole was
undergoing a severe trial of his capacity to adapt to an en-
vironment which for the first time seemed beyond his
powers to order. This is ironic, as it is common knowledge
that the achievements of the Industrial Revolution and the
development of scientific methods of enquiry had at last
begun to put mankind in some sort of a commanding posi-
tion over the physical world. But as man advanced to
greater mastery of the physical, so his always precarious
hold began to slip upon the more intangible aspects of his
relationship with the universe. His society, his awareness,
his methods of thought, and most importantly the con-
clusions he reached, were all changing round him. What is
more, they could be seen to be changing; and this was
frightening. Read the rest of this entry »
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by nemo
http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2010/12/20/was-bhagwan-shree-rajneesh-poisoned/comment-page-1/#comment-36823
I am sorry for this comment, but in a way it is welcome because it shows something inevitable, and the unconscious feelings of Gentiles confronting Jewish gurus. (and vice versa, no doubt)
One must be ultra wary of antisemitism here, but at the same time this is not conventional secular culture. We already have one instance of an antisemitic Jewish non-guru in E. J. Gold who has been caught endorsing the Holocaust in veiled language, years ago. So we have no real standard here anymore for surviving paranoia.
Right along with all of that was Gold’s Jewish slant, and his hidden prejudice against gentiles (especially of talent) and his secret transmissions to Jewish students and those alone. His savage secret attacks on Gentiles of talent is something I witnessed, scratching my head as I found out about it.
I think we should suspect the message: better find a Gentile guru unless you are satsfied being a Goldilocks dingbat.
Still, this may be not be the whole picture.
The sources of antisemitism in mystical teachings is a study in progress, I am afraid, but the fascist strain of early twentieth century occultism has been referenced here a lot.
Now, what about Andrew Cohen? I am unsure, but suspicious, and would never go his route.
This man is either a Jewish chauvinist, or else oblivious to the situation he created for himself. There are no Jewish gurus equipped to teach Hinduism to Western non-Jews. It doesn’t work. He presents himself as a Cohen, with no reference to identity confusions, teaching what? He never really says, a sort of Hindu mishmash, but with no labels to make clear what he is doing.
One gets suspcious this is deliberate: simply do the Hindu number under Jewish control, slowly morphing the whole thing toward Jewish control and monotheistic background music.
BTW, this is the strategy used by the original Brahmins to rip off the original Indian religion. Get a Brahmin with (fake) enlightenment, then slowly morph the whole thing toward an Aryan background music. And slip in the law of caste, etc…
Please recall Rajneesh’s gesture with his movement: if you are to do Indian religion in my frame you are going to give up your old identity, Christian, Jewish or otherwise, with a new identity and name. Over and out.
That was an important innovation, but it was deep sixed by the next set of gurus, like Cohen, who surely is aware of this issue. I must assume therefore his tactics are deliberate: to keep Gentiles in their place (no enlightenment, please) and Jews in control of the guru game.
The resistance to that in other figures/religions was monumental. Then we have Cohen appear, after the Lozowick bust, with E.J. Gold in the background
Please dismiss this as speculation on my part, but it is not antisemitic. And the more immediate issue is whether Cohen is a qualified guru at all. He seems unaware of his position, as if he was manipulated in place to fill a guru slot.
We have to face the reality that Rajneesh pointed to. I think Rajneesh figured it was hopeless in the West, and went back to India. There are powerful occult forces here that will destroy those who try to wake up or change the scheme of Judeo-Christian domination.
I think Cohen and his guru in India were both fooled. Cohen’s Indian guy came to suddenly and tried to retract what he did, while Cohen with absolutely no training and two weeks with a guru was pronounced enlightened.
None of that adds up to anything but an occult behind the scenes job.
How dreadful.
Anyway I think Cohen should resign, and that Rajneesh’s basic tactic should stand from now on: new names and identities on the path. Jews and Christians are the smae people, and yet they have been poisoned by two millennia of spiritual warfare and muddle. Trying to add Indian spirituality to that won’t work, and we already see the dead end created by Cohen.
The attempt by Gold et al to control the guru circuit is always suspicious also. If not Gold, then somone like him.
His fingerprints are all over Lozowick. But with Cohen he, or whoever, must have learned from their mistakes.
Best to pass on, from this waste of time. I may be a stupid gentile, but after Gold I certainly wouldn’t bother with a Jewish guru again. They will always look down on you, and consider you inferior.
There are exceptions, any number of Jubus who are disciplined by the greater Buddhist shadow police from this toxic nonsense. I exempt such people, etc…
But Judaism, Christianity and Islame/Sufism are pervaded by occult conspiracies. One has no choice but to tread warily. You just won’t ever figure it out.
Best to stick to something clear that allows the path to enlightenment, doesn’t indulbe in hankypanky and is more than a few thousand miles from the likes of E.J. Gold who makes it his speciality to wreck spiritual paths.
There is something to be said for intelligent Jews making a contribution to the New Age, it is to be welcomed. But this other shadow zone has a different set of rules, and would waste my time thinking of Gentile/Jewish spiritualteis hybridized with Indian traditions. Hindus, of course, will welcome somthing along these lines; the Jews and the Brahmins/Hindus are the only real spiritual peoples, all others are human trash. There are a lot of Hindus and not a few Jews would be delighted to make religion a monopoloy under their control.
The suggestion in the comment from Coyote is hilarious: suspect all those gurus who never had a sex scandal.
And go back and examine those who did, like Muktananda. Those people were too obviously under a spell. Something similar happened to Cohen’s guru guy: someone spotted his vulnerability and used telephathic suggestion to get him to endorse Cohen.
That’s what Aleister Crowley said he was going to do to the competition, so why be surprised!
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01.01.11
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by nemo
The stats for this month were just below the previous, despite almost no new material and a majority of days with no posts!
That’s hard evidence people are using this resource by reading the archives. Great.
This month/new year we will be getting back to some serious topics again.
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by nemo
The reason I am beginning to reference Rajneesh is to remind those in the Gurdjieff legacy that they don’t have a spiritual path. All your time will be wasted and you will be in danger of wasting all your time again in another life.
The Gurdjieff public is treated as moronic and a source of ‘sheep’. Move away and don’t look back.
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