Comments for The Gurdjieff Con http://www.gurdjieff-con.net Debriefing the Gurdjieff work Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:41:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on Article on caste by Mr. Mephistopheles http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2012/01/30/article-on-caste/comment-page-1/#comment-37716 Mr. Mephistopheles Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:41:49 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=2859#comment-37716 Cousin marriage seems relevant to the discussion: http://www.isteve.com/cousin_marriage_conundrum.htm Cousin marriage seems relevant to the discussion:

http://www.isteve.com/cousin_marriage_conundrum.htm

]]> Comment on Idries Shah and Robert Graves: from Garrard’s A Book of Verse by Burt http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2009/12/13/idries-shah-and-robert-graves-from-garrards-a-book-of-verse/comment-page-1/#comment-37704 Burt Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:59:46 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=1371#comment-37704 Personally this sort of kerfuffel is uninteresting to me. People trying to put people into categories. I prefer to take Rumi's advice: Don't look at my outer form, take what's in my hand. I have found Idries Shah's writings to be filled with insight and common sense and continue to find deeper meanings in the Graves Shah translation of Khayyam. So what do I care where they came from? Personally this sort of kerfuffel is uninteresting to me. People trying to put people into categories. I prefer to take Rumi’s advice: Don’t look at my outer form, take what’s in my hand. I have found Idries Shah’s writings to be filled with insight and common sense and continue to find deeper meanings in the Graves Shah translation of Khayyam. So what do I care where they came from?

]]> Comment on Illusions of the ‘fourth way’ by nemo http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2008/07/31/illusions-of-the-fourth-way/comment-page-1/#comment-37703 nemo Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:56:35 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=27#comment-37703 I am sure my critique has flaws, but the moment you refer to the enneagram my critique's stock rises again. I think my criticisms there stand. I am sure my critique has flaws, but the moment you refer to the enneagram my critique’s stock rises again. I think my criticisms there stand.

]]> Comment on Illusions of the ‘fourth way’ by rick http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2008/07/31/illusions-of-the-fourth-way/comment-page-1/#comment-37702 rick Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:39:26 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=27#comment-37702 This is not a good debriefing. Where are the facts? Just speculations. And all about personalities. If people don't know to separate personality from truth then they deserve what they find. Don't you understand that? You think they can hear you any differently than they would hear a Gurdjieff? When they are listening with ignorance? You are not giving anyone truth - just a different ignorance. You haven't addressed any of the teachings and shown that they are false or do not work. The enneagram, or any device for that matter, can be a 'key' to the cosmos if you understand and agree to the correlations and correspondences and math. This is a sad site - one personality attacking another. It is not a debriefing on the Work, because the Work works equal to how you work it. BTW - coming on to someone strongly doesn't = rapist. You are selling bunk. You are incapable of objective criticism, promoting what you disdain in others. This is not a good debriefing. Where are the facts? Just speculations.
And all about personalities. If people don’t know to separate personality
from truth then they deserve what they find. Don’t you understand that?
You think they can hear you any differently than they would hear a Gurdjieff?
When they are listening with ignorance? You are not giving anyone truth -
just a different ignorance. You haven’t addressed any of the teachings and shown
that they are false or do not work. The enneagram, or any device for that matter,
can be a ‘key’ to the cosmos if you understand and agree to the correlations and
correspondences and math. This is a sad site – one personality attacking another.
It is not a debriefing on the Work, because the Work works equal to how you work it.
BTW – coming on to someone strongly doesn’t = rapist. You are selling bunk. You
are incapable of objective criticism, promoting what you disdain in others.

]]> Comment on The guru game is dead by Tori http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2012/01/04/the-guru-game-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-37699 Tori Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:35:34 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=2816#comment-37699 It's not enough to debunk Gurdjieff because his work was continued in "The Emin". Founded by Raymond Armin (1924-2002), aka, Leo in the early seventies. Various incarnations included The Emin Sociey: The Eminent Way, The Eagle Endeavour, The Emin foundation and currently the Template Network. Lectures and dramatisations include Man the Machine, The Ray of Creation, the Five Centres, Essence & Personality The Three Brains, Levels of existence, In fact huge chunks of Gurdjieff's Cosmology & Laws. Moreover, this work took place attended by extremely strong presences and forces dubbed "the fizz". Leading to the claim that the Emin was a new arising to prepare the way for the higher powers that would imminently cleanse the low orders of the Astral light. Diligent Emin members would have crystallised the higher bodies within themselves to withstand this "Event". They would become the new world Leaders and Teachers. The Template Network's current public face is very low-key and does not readily reflect what lies behind the PR. Needless to say, numerous deadlines for this "Event" have passed causing Leo to often admit his only fault was being too early. It’s not enough to debunk Gurdjieff because his work was continued in “The Emin”.

Founded by Raymond Armin (1924-2002), aka, Leo in the early seventies. Various incarnations included The Emin Sociey: The Eminent Way, The Eagle Endeavour, The Emin foundation and currently the Template Network.

Lectures and dramatisations include Man the Machine, The Ray of Creation, the Five Centres, Essence & Personality The Three Brains, Levels of existence, In fact huge chunks of Gurdjieff’s Cosmology & Laws.

Moreover, this work took place attended by extremely strong presences and forces dubbed “the fizz”. Leading to the claim that the Emin was a new arising to prepare the way for the higher powers that would imminently cleanse the low orders of the Astral light. Diligent Emin members would have crystallised the higher bodies within themselves to withstand this “Event”. They would become the new world Leaders and Teachers.

The Template Network’s current public face is very low-key and does not readily reflect what lies behind the PR.

Needless to say, numerous deadlines for this “Event” have passed causing Leo to often admit his only fault was being too early.

]]> Comment on MKULTRA: The CIA’s Dark Secrets by The Gurdjieff Con » MKULTRA: The CIA's Dark Secrets | Is It A Conspiracy http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2012/01/07/mkultra-the-cias-dark-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-37693 The Gurdjieff Con » MKULTRA: The CIA's Dark Secrets | Is It A Conspiracy Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:00:22 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=2821#comment-37693 [...] post: The Gurdjieff Con » MKULTRA: The CIA's Dark Secrets └ Tags: author, back, book, classic, good, judgment, mkultra, nemo, russ, [...] [...] post: The Gurdjieff Con » MKULTRA: The CIA's Dark Secrets └ Tags: author, back, book, classic, good, judgment, mkultra, nemo, russ, [...]

]]> Comment on MKULTRA: The CIA’s Dark Secrets by Darwiniana » One for our ‘Occupy Langley’ file/MKULTRA: the cia’s dark secrets http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2012/01/07/mkultra-the-cias-dark-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-37686 Darwiniana » One for our ‘Occupy Langley’ file/MKULTRA: the cia’s dark secrets Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:24:02 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=2821#comment-37686 [...] http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2012/01/07/mkultra-the-cias-dark-secrets/ [...] [...] http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2012/01/07/mkultra-the-cias-dark-secrets/ [...]

]]> Comment on The Great Vampire. by jamiah http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2009/11/08/the-great-vampire/comment-page-1/#comment-37684 jamiah Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:50:52 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=1146#comment-37684 nice lingo. tho you sound afraid for youself in the midst of your own message. nice lingo. tho you sound afraid for youself in the midst of your own message.

]]> Comment on Astrology as flotsam of pre-Axial Age by C http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2011/10/12/astrology-as-flotsam-of-pre-axial-age/comment-page-1/#comment-37683 C Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:09:57 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=2736#comment-37683 You have been running in the same circle for a very long time. You have been running in the same circle for a very long time.

]]> Comment on More on fake gurus, and the question of gentile gurus by The Gurdjieff Con » The guru game is dead http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2011/08/08/more-on-fake-gurus-and-the-question-of-gentile-gurus/comment-page-1/#comment-37678 The Gurdjieff Con » The guru game is dead Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:02:09 +0000 http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/?p=2620#comment-37678 [...] http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2011/08/08/more-on-fake-gurus-and-the-question-of-gentile-gurus/#commen... [...] [...] http://www.gurdjieff-con.net/2011/08/08/more-on-fake-gurus-and-the-question-of-gentile-gurus/#commen... [...]

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